My dad has a 2000 Le Sabre and let me tell you it may not be the most exciting of rides but it's definately solid, the drivetrain is bullet proof and it's a very comfortable ride. This is one GM product that deserves more credit as it has all the hallmarks of being a standout contender in it's segment. If you compare it to say the Japanese equivalent (the Toyota Avalon) and you actually drive both it becomes very clear that Toyota used it as benchmark and came up way short. The Le Sabre is much more solid, has stronger brakes, handles better and is generally a more substantial car all around. With GM pushing the Allure with the same basic architecture it bodes well for them as they build a loyal clientele around what is a solid value in the mid sized catagory.